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Is it the menopause or is it depression?

Kate1968Kate1968 Posts: 2

Here’s a question I am struggling to answer. Am I depressed or are these feelings another symptom of the menopause?

I have been going through the menopause for about 3 years now. I have tried HRT but didn’t get on with it. It made me very angry and aggressive so I decided to see if I could struggle through without medication. I am getting used to the night sweats and lack of sleep but just recently I have realised that I’m not happy and can’t find joy in anything that I used to love doing. I struggle through work and have no motivation to socialise. I feel like crying at the most inconvenient times and I simply don’t laugh any more.

I need to find a solution but I’m scared to go to the doctors as I feel to exhausted to start the process of working out what medication will work for me. Does anybody have any suggestions?

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  • Blanka_CBlanka_C Posts: 346 Community Admin

    Hi @Kate1968,

    Welcome to the Community! ❤️ It's a very supportive group with the loveliest ladies.

    I'm so sorry to hear you're feeling like this. It must be overwhelming.

    It's true that one of the most common symptoms of the menopause are having mood swings, feeling more emotional or even anxious. This is because of hormone level changes.

    I appreciate what you're saying with the process of working out a new medication, but a visit to the doctor is definitely a good idea. A lot of the ladies here are on anti-depressants, including me (although in my case, it's not menopause-related). I take 10mp Citalopram, the lowest dose. For me personally it's helping, I used to have anxiety and panic attacks almost every day. I felt 'empty' if that make sense. And yes, the process of working out what is right for you, is not easy - I tried St John's Wort before for example, which didn't help me. But my GP was really understanding and guided me through the whole process.

    One thing is for 100% sure - you are not alone. There's always a pair of ears here to listen. In fact, @Julie20, @MonicaM, @Jane20 might have a couple of tips / experiences to share.

    In the meantime, I've found the following articles that you might find useful to have a look through:

    This discussion is quite similar as well, feel free to join in:

    Keep me posted on how you're getting on. Speak soon.

    Blanka x

  • MonicaMMonicaM Posts: 188 mod

    @Kate1968 Hi Kate, I am sorry that you are experiencing the symptoms. I have not personally experienced all of those symptoms but some of them not wanting to be around people sometimes and wanting to be myself. Not able to have a good night sleep because of the night sweats and waking up exhausted. Although my experiences or symptoms are not all the same as yours but please remember what @Blanka_C said we are always here if you need us to listen.

  • EllesmereportEllesmereport Posts: 3

    Hi Kate it’s a very difficult time and a real struggle to get through some of the symptoms. You are not on your own we are all dealing with these issues. Try some B12 vitamins they give you energy I swear by them. Menopause is like a roller coaster and most of the time we all want to get off. It does get better it just takes time. Try and talk to s doctor they can help.

  • MonicaMMonicaM Posts: 188 mod

    @Ellesmereport thank you for that suggestion that you gave I may try B12 vitamins as a matter of fact I probably should get a multivitamin to give me the nutrients that I am not getting from food.

  • Blanka_CBlanka_C Posts: 346 Community Admin

    Hi @Kate1968, how are you? Did you manage to talk to your doctor? I hope you're feeling a little better now x

  • Morning55Morning55 Posts: 13
    edited September 12

    I wake up feeling dreadful like life is not worth living , but in reality I do want to live . I have major anxiety and low moods . I dont want to continue to live like this I dread the next morning. Has anyone experienced this. I am taking estrogen Troches . I have taken estrogen since the beginning of my journey for 1 year . My doctor wants me to try progesterone and will next week. I have a little antidepressants that I take to pull me out a slump then I stop because it does not help most of my symptoms like the dreadful mornings. My doctor has giving me several antidepressants to try but due to a bad experience with one in the beginning of my journey I have become more afraid and no trust for doctors anymore. I want to feel like I enjoy my life again.

  • Kate1968Kate1968 Posts: 2

    So 6 months on from my original post here’s my journey.

    I decided to revisit the doctor but went for a doctor who looks at you as a whole rather than individual symptoms. Some may say ‘alternative’ I say why not try something new.

    It was great to have someone spend time actually listening to you. After a huge amount of blood tests and other test the results were so insightful.

    It turned out I had super elevated levels of oestrogen but almost no progesterone. I also had high levels of cortisol particularly at night.

    I was prescribed progesterone only pills and an anti cortisol tablet as well as menopausal multi vitamins.

    Yes I put on weight, but for the first time in years I was sleeping through the night with no sweats or insomnia, and as a result my mental health improved.

    After 4 months I stopped taking the tablets and so far everything is going well. Still sleeping, and feeling more energised to battle the weight. I also know what to do if the symptoms come back

    All I can say is that I feel I’m making progress for the first time in years. My advice is keep looking for that solution. It might be different from the traditional routes, but when you find it you will feel the battle was worth it.

  • MonicaMMonicaM Posts: 188 mod

    @Morning55

    I am soooo sorry you are going through what you are going through with depression and not feeling like yourself. I am going to tag the nurse expert in this post to see what advice she can give you. @DianePorterfield-Bourne.

    I know that you have been talking to your doctor but had you spoken to a counselor maybe they can give you some suggestions in addition to your doctor hopefully finding you the right balance of medication to help you.

    So many of us suffer with these symptoms and I hope that you can find something that will help you feel better.

    @Kate1968 Thank you for your advice and I am so glad you found something to help you.

    Please keep us posted on how you are doing.

  • Diane Porterfield-BourneDiane Porterfield-Bourne Posts: 262 Menopause Nurse Practitioner

    @Morning55

    Thank you for posting. I really feel your hurt....you desperately want to feel better. So what is your GP doing to help?

    The type of Oestrogen you are taking isn't one I have heard of..but have just looked it up. It is an unregulated compounded bio identical HRT. In some countries it is widely used and approved but in the UK it isn't. This type of HRT is not what I or your normal GP would prescribe.


    All I can suggest is if it isn't helping have you discussed it with the person who prescribed it? If so what have they advised? Have you used normal HRT? The normal being what we in the UK say is regulated bio identical HRT. We have years of research and dosages are standardised so we know side effects, how it works etc. The traditional route HRT is what I and UK menopause specialists advise and prescribe.

    If you are feeling as you are you need to make an appointment with your doctor and get your symptoms sorted.

    Good luck and please keep in touch.

    Best wishes

    Diane Porterfield Bourne.

  • Julie20Julie20 Posts: 334 mod

    Hi @kate1968. I waa also suffering with terrible mood swings and like you my blood test showed that I was low in progesterone. The instant change in my moods once I started the tablets was amazing. Rather than stopping them like you have why not try cutting down to one every other night then one every 2 nights etc.

    Nothing is worth us feeling so dreadful that we can't live a normal life x

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